With the recent resignation of Kelric Arconae as Baron of the DBPA, our SWG Player Association is leaderless. That being said, there are no openings of this position at the current time. Instead, I hereby officially take command of the DBPA for the duration of the crisis.
There has been a lot of hassle and problems within the DBPA recently that are now going to be dealt with. I hereby officially appoint Xanos Zorrixor Serpenti-Sadow, our illustrous Sith High Warrior, as my Inquisitor. He will represent me within Star Wars Galaxies, exercising my authority when I am not present and be a superior to all DBPA-members. His role will be to evaluate the current state of the PA as well as a couple of other things.
Following this, I am going to put a poll up. Every member is asked to take this, as it will help us gouge the actual number of people within the Dark Brotherhood who are interested at all in being a part of the DBPA ingame.
Expect further announcements from my office and work together with Inquisitor Zorrixor. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Why not, he always wanted to play inquisitor, I think :p
Uhm... wasn't Spears in charge already?
Obviously not. Move along.
Uh, yeah he was. I'm rather positive... goes to find the old announcements
He was, then got removed when Kelric came back. It was never announced. But really... Goat? :P
To clarify: Kelric had returned some time ago, effectively putting Spears back into his position as liason. Both Kelric and Spears have resigned.
Well we need someone to take command! because everyday we are recruiting people in the game for the DB and with out someone to help lead the guild our City structure is in peril, we already lost our Imperial base and I was ready to talk with set up a mall with in Obsidian to help stimulate generate a steady flow of credits towards the City.
Whether Spears was acting BAR or not, you should show some respect to your fellow brethren and not reply in such a derogatory tone. You are LM to serve the Brotherhood, we are not here to serve you. If in future someone questions your comments, as they no doubt will in many occassions, have the decorum and etiquite to reply responsibly instead of acting like a jerk.
Not for nothing Lord Marshal, but im in the game all day every day when not at work yet ive never seen you in there, in the hunting parties or on the Raids on the Rebel Citys we do on occasion, the responsabilities that come as Baron are great and I only hope that you can be able to handle these asside the other jobs you allready have. because the heads of the sub-guilds can all take the leadership as a commitee until we establish and appoint a proper Baron. for those of us that hold leadership possitions with in the PA we must try to keep the our political structure together and continue to do our jobs as ussual and continue to recruit new members to the DB and its sub-guilds.
Alright... couple of things to make clearer than they are right now:
So Kelric, myself and others where nothing but figureheads well thatÂ’s nice to know. Wow I am really glad I put in all that time and effort to find out I was a figurehead.
well said Mejas :P
I'm gonna put my foot in my mout here and say...
I don't think you have ANY IDEA what's it's like in the DBPA Guild within the game. I think you should flippin' play the game, join the friggen Guild and see how we all work.
Thrusting your "authority" will only destroy it. Obviously you don't see how because you haven't seen the Guild 1st-hand.
Not for anything but some of us do enjoy the game and do work hard to represent the DB in its full glory inside the game Spears, Kelric, Demosthenes, Dagger,Meuchelmorder,Ziguarath,Selket,Khobai and myself(if I forgot to mention anyone please forgive me) are working hard to make sure that the DB have a strong hold with in the Scylla server as one of the Top Imperial Guilds that server has ever seen, throw our efforts our numbers grow everyday some members even go as far as to joining the web based DB. yet no one ever says that you to us for our efforts, well im saying it now THANKS TO ALL MY FELLOW PA MEMBERS that spend their hard earned money to promote this great gaming club of ours in a online community game.
The Guild has been going for almost 1 year. I have personally spent about 7 months with helping the Guild. Others have spent almost 1 year. We have put our monthly REAL LIFE Money into this, we have put our REAL LIFE Time into this, we have put OUR EFFORT into this. Like Raidoner said.
Without all our contributions, the Guild and City Obsidian would not be here today. Don't ruin that by foolish Ego drives like "I own the DBPA. Look at me, i'm the leader. Hoorah"
You know, with the kind of attitude this has spurred up frankly its a prime example of why changes are necessary. If Jac took command of a Clan when a Consul suddenly stepped out I doubt any of you would even so much as give such an action a second glance, but for some peculiar reason because this is the Player Association there is a distinct attitude that it is 'special'.
Well let me tell you all something. Funnily enough, when a leader retires, the Council member responsible for that area takes temporary command of it. Odd that isn't it.
I will make one thing clear yet again.
No changes are going to be made without full consultation of the members.
Perhaps you all need to pull your heads out of the gutter and remember who you are speaking to, as frankly, I'm insulted, appauled, and if thats your attitude I may as well not bother, we can close the DBPA, and you can all go and set up your own Player Association.
Need I remind you all, when Clan Naga Sadow split from the Emperor's Hammer I gave the choice to the MEMBERS. I was fully prepared to stay in the EH if the will of the Clan so required. I never make decisions for the people beneath me. The implication I do is outrageous, and blatent disrespect. You're all damn lucky this isn't the Emperor's Hammer, as I would quite rightly demand some kind of action and an apology for those statements, as I feel insulted.
Need I also remind you all changes will be made by the future Baron. I already have said that once. I really do dislike having to say things twice. If you have a problem, it's going to be with yourselves, as I don't plan on making any changes.
But perhaps there is one final thing I want to make clear.
The Dark Brotherhood Player Association is a part of the Dark Brotherhood. As such I care for it like I do any other part of the Dark Brotherhood. As such when it's leadership retires in one swoop and the Council member, the Lord Marshal, responsible for it asks me if I would act as leader on a temporary basis until a new one can be appointed. Guess what. I don't say "bugger off" I agree to HELP OUT.
That is my JOB people. Perhaps once you all remember that the Dark Council is here to HELP you you'll actually understand where we are trying to go. But until you remember that there are going to be problems. This is precisely WHY we have the Dark Council.
Give me the "you know nothing about what its like in game" excuses all you want, but considering I base half my arguments on what people who play the game tell me, including people like Khobai and other high level people, along with having mastered professions myself and put consider play hours into the game, the fact I'm strangely having a little break means squat. People like Armus havn't played for months, yet we don't suddenly make such outrageous claims as to say he doesn't have a clue. Fact of the matter is, if you want a Player Association that this Council has no jurisdiction over, then you go and make one. If you however want to be part of the greater, enjoyable community that is the Dark Brotherhood that has existed for ten years, that has had the work of thousands of people put into it, then expect to have to conform to standards that exist to benefit and contribute to the ENTIRE Dark Brotherhood.
Yes, work has been put into the DBPA. I appreciate that. Frankly how you think I'm just going to walk in and destroy everything is beyond me- you seem to forget that in the very game you know so much about the powers don't rest in the Guild Leaders hands anyway, as I'm going to have to have a long talk with the Mayor to decide the future of the Guild. But the fact is, if you don't like the way the DARK BROTHERHOOD'S Guild is run, go and make your own Guild. The Guild is under the authority of the Lord Marshal, you don't like that, well I'm afraid thats life, that's like moaning that the Krath High Priestess is in charge of the Krath Order, which I'm sure you'll agree would be an equally asinine comment.
Now. Here's a bit of advice. Rather than bitch idiotically and unconstructively about how incompetant James is. Perhaps you could email him and actually tell him what needs doing in the Guild. Oddly enough, if you HELP him he may actually HELP you. But until you give him some clue as to what to do all he has to go on is my advice alone.
THINK people. Bitching isn't going to get you anywhere but where you don't want to go. As trust me, nice a guy as I am, you've just blown me into serious pissed off land, and believe me, you REALLY don't want me to be pissed off, as I make Astatine look like a puppy.
Why should we be afraid of pissing you off? Because you're a 'socipath'? :P
I said James doesn't know crap coz he isn't in the SWG DB PA. And his post made it sound like he was taking total command and making new changes, when he doesn't know how we work in-game.
You know as well as I do that the Guild in the game works completely different. We're more on running around fighting things/crafting things/selling things/healing things and having fun. Doing silly dances and emotions. Getting our hair done and our eye colours changed. Getting fat or getting old. It's all for fun. You's sound like you're trying to turn it into some uptight military camp. If you's want to be a pricks, then by all means go ahead and be one. You just won't get anything that way.
And i don't care if you find my "attitude" in the wrong. It's pretty much what most of us in the DBPA who have read this would be feeling. So i call a spade a spade, so what? Just because some of us make a comment that no one wants to hear, yet they are thinking it.
I don't want the fun to die in the DBPA, nor in the Brotherhood.
Hopefully the smiles on peoples faces will come first before the Ego of others.
what a joke haha
I gotta say that some of thesecomments are the most retarded dribble that I have ever seen
It's only dribble to you because you don't know what it's about :P Get Star Wars Galaxies, join the Guild, as then say it's dribble :P
I have to agree that it's dribble... and saying "you have to play the game to understand" is crap. All this arguing about it is compelling anyone to want to play the game - ever. Take it to the Message Boards. That's why we have them.
Shrug I offered by to serve as temporary leader until the DC could find a suitable replacement. Ah well...I plan on still being a member of the DBPA after the shit that has already hit the fan is cleaned up and squared away. I will extend my services as an advisor to the new Baron should he/she decide to accept.
Well I think this has gone on quite long enough at least for my end.
Washes his hands
If the PA members need me they know where to find me, I will be that guy trying to hit a Gurk on the head with a stick.
Nothing actually stops you continuing to help in game for the time being, Kelric.
What this alleviates you from though is having to sort out the roster on the database. I made a list of the DBPA last night and the actual <db> Guild alone has 50 members, yet the database lists just 30, so that needs something of an update- the fun task of which falls to McKenna, so don't everyone think he's got an enjoyable job ahead of him :P
As I said in my own post. Database access and dealing with Jac falls on the Baron's turf, if you want to continue to tag people with <db> in game then sure, I suppose that's ok as you're online US time when most people are anyway, I don't see that many online myself during UK time, however I think it's safe to conclude that its better for James to handle the admin work on the database side of things.
Don't forget, when Spears was acting Baron he was Baron on the database, simply because there isn't admin support for any position other than Baron, all McKenna is is acting Baron as well. I could be Praetor or something but, meh, I wanted a title that instilled fear... and well, it had the desired affect in a couple of cases, so I'm pleased with my saddistical choice :P</db></db>