Hi everyone,
Quick one here as a preliminary heads up. We've seen the concerns regarding those that were granted the faction-specific possessions from the Rite being able to sell their items for additional credits, a miscommunication inside the DC. We have taken the time to have a look at the situation, and have come up with a solution. Our solution isn't perfect, but it's the most straightforward way to rectify this.
Monday afternoon after set-up at the next work site (I'm traveling home 20 hours today and spending tomorrow with my family before I leave for the next two jobs the 6th-22nd) I will introduce a granted version of the faction items for the top 10 of each faction. Any top 10-er who still owns this item will have theirs decommissioned and replaced with this granted item. Any top 10-er who sold this item for credits will have a manual credit mutation applied to have these credits removed.
In Service,
Anubis Taldrya
Regent of the Brotherhood
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I find this an acceptable solution.
Gonna start by saying I don't really care one way or the other.
But what's wrong with the top 10 of each faction deciding to potentially sell the item and use the creds towards something they actually want? It's not as if the items are worth over 10k or something. If I scored in the top 10 of the Retributionists (I did) and I didn't have an NPC to foist the blaster onto (I have one in development who'll use it) then I'd want to sell it and use the creds towards something I can actually use. Otherwise we're rewarding some of these highly active RoS participants by giving them something that's useless to them. If I had gotten the rifle, I'd have wanted to sell it because otherwise it'd be sitting in a possessions bin for the rest of my DB Dossier's existence.
Sorry, hit submit before I finished the final paragraph:
Consider a vendetta in the future (another faction based RoS or GJW or something similar) where the top 10 scorers get a special lightsaber. Then imagine that 8 of the top 10 are Non-Force-Users (NFU) who can't use lightsabers. Will they not be allowed to sell the - to them - useless item?
Anyway, just making a point here that - in my opinion - there's nothing wrong with letting people sell the stuff they get in situations like this.
I hope those who threw a tantrum over a handful of credits, earned as a reward for exceptional work and contribution in a Club-wide activity, are now sufficiently placated.
Personally, I don't really care about a shotgun, but it's a nice and thematic way to award those members who really stood out among the others and gave their A-game in pursuit of their faction's fictional domination over the others.
Yes, perhaps all the faction items should have been priced equally, that would have been my only concern, but on the upside, now each top-scoring participant actually gains a unique item and not just a trophy that any other member can buy for credits. So I guess that's a plus?
I agree with Ood. if my characters have no use for an item, it is just clutter in our possessions. I understand to stop the exploit of credits farming, but allow those that have the permanent items to trade them for something else off the unique items at least.
"We're going to do a competition to give away a car." "What if the winner sells it because they already have one or can't drive?" "I didn't think of that. We'd better make sure only they can ever register it with the DVLA/DMV. That will stop them"
The granted items will not be different. They will have a slightly different name (because no two prototypes can have the same name, for URL/site "slug" purposes, but they will have the same description and aspect slots as the one in the stores.
"I hope those who threw a tantrum over a handful of credits, earned as a reward for exceptional work and contribution in a Club-wide activity, are now sufficiently placated."
Criticism != tantrum.
tan·trum /ˈtantrəm/ Learn to pronounce noun an uncontrolled outburst of anger and frustration, typically in a young child. "he has temper tantrums if he can't get his own way"
What an absurd, juvenile and unconstructive thing to say.
This doesn't seem like an exploitation at all. You get an item. You don't want it? Sell it. Like. We give every JM the OPTION of an item or a credit pay out. Why can't people who worked their asses off sell their things? How is this farming if you're only granted one?
This is a hasty but we'll intentioned and overcorrecting response to hysteria over a minimal concern at best, with a solution more straightforward (price them equally as others have said) overlooked. It's not the right solution, and there's still time to change it. Please consider not allowing a few VIVIDLY upset voices to sway a decision into swinging quite so far when a smaller correction on the pricing equality will do just fine. After all, that doesn't work in anything else (see: hi, Discord).
I don't understand what the difference will be between what we were given initially and what this new version of the item will be.
I don't think it's the voices themselves but the logic behind the voices calmly addressing an issue of the playing field being unlevel. People can write it off as hysteria, or a tantrum, or whatever other word they want to use to use in lieu of growing up and accepting there was a genuine issue in fairness that was being raised, but while this isn't the solution I would have chosen, it does solve a significant issue in fairness of rewards.
While the club being fair might be considered a 'minimal concern' to some, it isn't to others.
The new version will be akin to a society award. No credit value, non sellable. It's a reward for getting into the top 10.
Ahh, I see. Thanks Anubis.
“Please consider not allowing a few VIVIDLY upset voices to sway a decision…”
Preach, Atty.
The original plan was for the items to be priced equivalently. I'm on vacation this week and didn't double check pricing with Anubis before the items went live, so blame me. We're rolling the granted items back and issuing new ones with a zero credit value. The purchasable items will not be impacted. This will not change.
We are considering whether to issue a credit bonus to the 40 granted-item recipients to try and bring them closer to the original concept. Please stop arguing about this.
If the items cost different amounts, now it's unfair for the not top-10 placing members of a faction. "Why does a Severian supporter get their gizmo for half the price that I get my Revenant gun? I want to have atolen memory of this event, but I need to pay double?!"
We can argue about credits and fairness if we want, but let's remember that the people who got stuff, got it for their work. The people who did things, got things, and those who did the best, got a little extra. I think that's a pretty well-established means of how the DJB works, no?